Hi there,
I know very little of these machines except that I have been hearing/reading how good they are.
Can anyone give me some pros/cons - currently ride a 'Fightered ZX7 but am more than a little interested in what I am hearing of these things.
Given my background, if I got involved it would have to be a four stroke & street legal (or at least registerable, anyway!).
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streetfighter67
offlineMemberPosted 1 year ago # -
Jeram
offlineMemberummmm in most cases you want to avoid freeway trips!
you want to gear them nice and low for having fun usually :Dso you'll have to rev its nuts out at 110kmhbut with low gearing a 30hp 250 two stroke motard with road tyres on stock rims is scary fast around town...it'l whip a bigger bike without trying...I personally wouldnt worry about wide custom rims unless your racing it or have a very hot motor...skinny motard tyres turn faster... wide tyres just look coolPosted 1 year ago # -
streetfighter67
offlineMemberSo...
Freeway trips I tend to avoid at all costs anyway (a naked ZX7 is not a great deal of fun there either!).
As I'm not really a 2 stroke fan, I'm thinking a 400 - 650 4 stroke would be equivalent (albeit heavier)?
With that, it should have more talk to pull higher gearing (& better wheelies?) & to make it more user-friendly for other uses?
At the end of the day is it going to be cheaper to own & more fun than my bike, or am I kidding myself?
Wouldn't the wider tyre also provide better grip on the road (given it's larger contact patch) in corners? Or am I just looking for a good reason to look cool? I notice the current batch tend to run 140 - 160 width on theirs.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Jeram
offlineMembera big single wont have any more torque that a 300cc twostroke...
those high performance 4strokes cost alot more to maintain compaired to a twostroke.If you want something cheaper to own and maintain you should be looking at a drz450 motard as they have decent service intervals and are reliable as fook. dont get a highly strung motard unless you want to maintain it.If you want an affordable holligan bike that will scare the shite out of you and wont need expensive services, Id get a KTM300 of Gas Gas 300.Id only go for a bigger set of wheels once you found the limit with the stock width rims...you'll have to be pushing your bike hard to find the edge of the stock tyres...and road tyres for mx rims are CHEAP!!! 200bucks for pirelli scorpion front and rear seat :Djust depends how cool you want to look :DYou'd be forgiven for getting fat tyres, it does look pretty coolI just love the way that a motard changes you... in the tight stuff you just cant help sticking your leg out...hahaPosted 1 year ago # -
Ryan
offlineMemberHey Jeram, I was going to ask you about 2 stroke motards...considering the build thread and all.
Not having any 2 stroke experience, I was wondering if the KTM or Gas Gas are likely to have issues holding a steady throttle.
I've got a 10km urban, want a two a 2stroke and a motard but not sure if it'll work.
The Gas Gas seem a lot cheaper than the KTM.
Anybody know if that reflects quality or is also a brand thing.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Jeram
offlineMemberboth are good examples of two strokes...
two strokes wont be your cup of tea if you just want to sit at a constant speed for 10km...if your doing it from traffic light to traffic light, it will be perfect...but for freeway or constant rpm for a long periods you will fowl spark plugs...try getting an older ktm? only difference is that older ones (pre2005?) dont have electric start.and pre2010 dont have 6speed gearboxyou can also change the powervalve spring to suit your riding...softer hit or harder hitPosted 1 year ago # -
Jeram
offlineMemberand for a road bike... you definitely want a 6speed...
it will make freeways a little more barableso this is the 2010 GAS GAS2010 KTM2010 HUSABERGI think the yamaha yz250 is a 6er also???and the newest TM racing 250s and 300s are the most powerful of the bunch but are expensivethe 250 makes around 60hp! and the 300 makes a little morePosted 1 year ago # -
Ryan
offlineMember"those high performance 4strokes cost alot more to maintain compared to a twostroke."
Yeah your not wrong, if you're not mechanically minded they'll cost heaps in the long run.Thanks for the info about 2 stroke motard road manners. To me they just seem like the ideal urban terrorist.
Looks like I'll be putting the motard on the back burner tho, the Ms feels her street triple is to good for track days.
She has her eyes on a 4 stroke 250/400 track bike....I'll see if I can steer her towards some stink wheels instead.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------60hp from a 250, that is special...I've got some web browsing to do.
Posted 1 year ago # -
Jeram
offlineMembermate have a look on ebay!
there are track prepared RGV250 and NSR250s and RS250s on there all the time for cheapright now theres an rgv for 2300 no reserve!!!allow a few hundred bucks to change the fluids, filters, rings, pistons, bearings and brake pads as required...WOWif id know you could get this that cheap, I may have gone down a very different path to my current racebike... not complaining tho! its just too damn cheapPosted 1 year ago #
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