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playswithnitro
offlineModeratorHow many of you have written letters of complaint and sent them to the relevant politicians?
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playswithnitro
offlineModeratorUse this link if you need to find out who your local member is:
http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/members.nsf/V3ListCurrentMembers
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playswithnitro
offlineModeratorIf anybody has any personal contact with a member of the NSW Parliament who rides a motorcycle, please contact them and make sure that they're aware of what is going on.
Not even Opposition members were made aware of this move by the Government.
Our current State Government needs to be made aware of the stupidity of this decision. Write letters or make phone calls.
Here is some great info from the Streetfighters Forum...
As sent to the MCC of NSW
<font color="midnightblue" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">
http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/web/submissions.nsf/Submission?OpenForm&ParentUNID=AF7A8A47C938F55DCA2577270022B2EC&House=LA
</font>This inquiry is taking submissions.
You can write one (or more) submissions. Clear, polite ones count.
A submission can be a simple letter, which you can lodge online at the above address. Also, you don't need to write about every reference below, a letter about what you think should be done to improve your safety on the road would be enough. Do try to align your comments to one of the terms of reference - they need that to help them do their counting!!!
The number of submissions is an indication to the committee about the level of importance of this issue, so the more the better.
The closing date for submissions is Friday, 6 August 2010.
Make your submission as a private person, not an organisation (otherwise they'll make any conflicting views count against us).
TERMS OF REFERENCE:
That the Committee inquire into and report on vulnerable road users, specifically motorcycle and bicycle safety, with particular reference to:a) patterns of motorcycle and bicycle usage in New South Wales;
b) short and long term trends in motorcycle and bicycle injuries and fatalities across a range of settings, including on-road and off-road uses;
c) underlying factors in motorcycle and bicycle injuries and fatalities;
d) current measures and future strategies to address motorcycle and bicycle safety, including education, training and assessment programs;
e) the integration of motorcyclists and bicyclists in the planning and management of the road system in NSW;
f) motorcycle and bicycle safety issues and strategies in other jurisdictions; and
g) any other related matters.Also see<font color="midnightblue" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">
http://www.treasury.act.gov.au/compulsorytpi/NRMAInsuranceCTPPremiumsApril2010.pdf
http://www.transport.tas.gov.au/fees/calculation_of_fees_-_motorcycles#2
http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/licensing/paymentoptions/1431.asp
http://www.sa.gov.au/upload/franchise/Transport,%20travel%20and%20motoring/Motoring/documents/CTP_Premium_%20mr85.PDF
http://www.tac.vic.gov.au/upload/TAC_WebRates2009.pdf</font>Posted 1 year ago # -
Jed
offlineMemberplayswithnitro ha detto: Out of interest, I just checked on the cost to register a 750cc, single seat motorcycle in Queensland. Staggering price difference. CTP is $100! Here's the breakdown... CTP insurer AAMIRegistration fee 91.30 Traffic improvement fee 45.80 CTP insurance premium 100.00 Duty (new registration) 60.00 Plate fee 22.75 ======== Total fee ($) 319.85
I have just recieved my QLD rego renewal
ZXR-750 Single Seat Rego
CTP Insurance - $99.40
Rego Fee - $94.05
Traffic Improvement fee - $47.15Grand Total - $240.60
I can't see how they jusify the NSW prices
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playswithnitro
offlineModeratorMy mistake. I did the online quote as a new rego.
Makes our system even more extortionate.
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playswithnitro
offlineModeratorNot a problem. As you said, it just adds further confirmation of the extent of the stupidity that some of our elected representatives display.
Posted 1 year ago # -
psycho biker
offlineMemberhttp://www.riderripoff.com.au/
Here's a petition site that MP Andrew Stoner has kicked off, we need to all sign this!
Posted 1 year ago # -
playswithnitro
offlineModeratorEverybody who lives in NSW and rides a bike or scooter needs to register their disapproval of the NSW Government's blatant ripoff.
Sign the petition and get as many other riders to sign also.
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psycho biker
offlineMemberFOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Office workers, mums, dads, motorcycles and scooters
to converge on ParliamentChanges
to the NSW Compulsory Third Party (CTP) scheme on July 1st this year,
saw motorcycle and scooter riders slugged with outrageous price
increases. Some riders are facing increases of nearly 100%. This is
despite a dramatic decrease in fatalities since 1995. Car drivers are
now also beginning to question the CTP scheme.• FACT: In 1995 there were 8.9 motorcycle fatalities per 10,000 registered motorcycles in NSW.
• FACT: In 2008 there were 3.7 motorcycle fatalities per 10,000 registered motorcycles in NSW.There
are almost 168,000 registered motorcycles in NSW and half a million
motorcycle licence holders. There are more motorcycles and scooters on
the road than ever and the road toll is going down. “With more bikes on
our roads, we will continue to see a marked reduction in congestion,
pollution and parking problems, especially in major cities like Sydney”
the Chairman of the Motorcycle Council of NSW (MCC of NSW), Rob Colligan
stated today. “But instead of promoting greener transport, motorcycles
and scooters are being financially driven off the roads with massive
increases in CTP premiums.”The MCC of NSW is therefore calling
upon all motorcycle and scooter owners, along with motorcycle industry
representatives to converge on Parliament House at 12 noon on August
31st to protest this unfair and unjustified money-grab on one of the
greenest forms of transport on our roads. “It is time for our political
leaders to come clean on why they do not recognize motorcycles and
scooters as unique and independent road users, instead of treating us as
some sort of small car or some sort of problem,” Colligan said. “The
Motorcycle Council of NSW would like to apologise to the people of
Sydney for any inconvenience our protest may cause, but it is time for
us all to stand up and be counted.”The MCC of NSW has invited
the Premier of NSW to address the protest, yet only the Shadow Minister
for Roads, Andrew Stoner, has accepted the invitation. “The government
can ensure insurance company profits do not undermine the CTP scheme and
it is time for the Kenneally Government to answer to the people of NSW
the hard question, of what is wrong with our CTP Scheme.” Colligan said.THE MCC of NSW
United we ride - Divided we walkFor further information and all media enquiries please contact:
Rob Colligan – Chairman MCC of NSW
0401227731The
Motorcycle Council of NSW(MCC of NSW) was established in 1982 is the
state’s pre-eminent motorcycle advisory group and represents 40,000
motorcycle riders from 38 social clubs and motorcycling organisations.Posted 1 year ago # -
psycho biker
offlineMemberand this off the RAB site is what was discussed at the meeting
For all attendees these rules and guidelines are non-negotiable.
Important Notes:
Because
of police regulations the suggestions and guidelines listed here are
voiced by the RAB are a part of an agreed plan that was constructed
outside of the MCC's jurisdiction, in order to avoid legal action being
taken against Rob Colligan as the Chairman of the MCC and sole organiser
of the Rally.
Andrew Stoner and Barry O'Farrell have confirmed their attendance in order to speak with us and have their own say. Also
remember the letter writing campaign must NOT stop just because we are
having this rally.
It is extremely important to realise the MCC has
NOT given any instructions as to where and how we may ride or park. We
do it all out of our own volition.
Guidelines for the Day
1.
Approximately 50 riders are required to attend the area of Parliament
House and Hospital Rd behind Parliament at approximately 3 - 4 am in
order to start securing the parking spaces.
Note: At this stage only
1 bike per space is allowed to park - If more than one bike is in any
one space all the bikes parked will be issued with a fine. Negotiations
are proceeding to have that rule suspended for the duration of the
protest.
2. Because of the volume of bikes we expect to be in
attendance around Parliament, the plan is in conjunction with people on
foot to have a constant cavalcade riding around the block of Macquarie
St and Hospital Rd "looking for parking" that will slow traffic.
3.
At 6am there will be a van located on Hospital Rd that will be
distributing hand held placards and other materials for the protest.
This is a Black and Green Ford Transit Van.
4. Marshals will be
positioned around Parliament and surrounding streets guiding bike
traffic, please be respectful and listen to their directions.
Note:
The Dykes on Bikes at this stage are being suggested as the marshals
and will be wearing high visibility white shirts with reflective strips.
5.
All members walking to the rally are asked to carry their helmets as a
distinguishing feature and insignia of being a motorcyclist and participant in the protest.
6. The official protest is allocated to
run between 12pm - 1pm, however the "go slow" because of the volume of
bikes will start early in the morning.
Note: If you arrive early and
plan to ride around "looking for parking" please ensure you have a FULL
tank of petrol... do not run out of petrol and risk being spoken to and
penalised by the police.
Note: If you cannot attend in the morning,
please arrive outside Parliament House by 11:50am and join the motorcade
around Parliament House.
7. THERE WILL BE A STRONG POLICE AND MEDIA
PRESENCE! Idiotic behaviour will not be tolerated under ANY
circumstances. Anyone committing an offence should expect no leniency
from the police and no support from the RAB.
8. If approached by the
media and asked why you are protesting you are to direct ALL questions
to Rob Colligan who will be on the staging area with the microphone.
This will avoid people making silly comments which will be used as stock
footage and harm the goal of the rally.
Note: if you MUST make a comment, it must relate to the CTP issue. WE ARE PROTESTING ABOUT CTP AND NOTHING ELSE.
9.
In order to cover costs imposed by Sydney City Council, The Police and
The Royal Botanical Gardens Trust, a hat will be passed around asking
for at least a gold coin donation.
Note: Please remember the MCC gets
no official funding from the Government and all costs are being worn
from their own (under funded) treasury.
10. If the number of bikes is as large as we hope, we will just cram all the parking and footpath space, within reason.
Note: Any footpath parking may attract a fine of around $85, so park at your own risk.
Note: If you do receive a parking ticket leave it on your bike so you dont receive another one.
11.
If riding into the city in a large group RAB suggests riding in a 'go
slow' fashion. Make it a slow race not a fast race, you will have more
effect. All groups riding to Parliament are responsible for their own
actions and will receive no support in antisocial behaviour from the RAB
or the MCC in any way, shape or form. Use your head, don't do anything
stupid!
12. This, we hope, will be one of the largest motorcycle
rallies in NSW history. Lets make it count and not further negative
stereotypes that have lead to our being discriminated against in the
first place.
You know the time, you know the place, you know the
reason. We NEED you there and anyone else you can bring. Lets make this
THE Protest that tells the Government enough is enough.
Hope to see you there!
Kindest Wishes, Stay and Ride Safe.Posted 1 year ago # -
psycho biker
offlineMemberPlease note, some of the rules have changed, for legal reasons
<font color="red" face="Times New Roman" size="3">For all attendees these
rules and guidelines are non-negotiable.</font><font color="red" face="Times New Roman" size="3">Important Notes:</font>
<font color="red" face="Times New Roman" size="3">Because of police regulations
the suggestions and guidelines listed here are voiced by the RAB are a
part of an agreed plan that was constructed outside of the MCC's jurisdiction,
in order to avoid legal action being taken against Rob Colligan as the
Chairman of the MCC and sole organiser of the Rally.</font><font color="red" face="Times New Roman" size="3">Andrew Stoner and Barry
O'Farrell have comfirmed their attendence in order to speak with us and
have their own say. Also remember the letter writing campaign must NOT
stop just because we are having this rally.</font><font color="red" face="Times New Roman" size="3">It is extremely important
to realise the MCC has given instructions that we are not to organise any
“Slow” ride or cavalcade.</font><font color="red" face="Times New Roman" size="3">Guidelines for the
Day</font><font color="red" face="Times New Roman" size="3">1. Approximately 50 riders
are required to attend the area of Parliament House and Hospital Rd behind
Parliament at approximately 3 - 4 am in order to start securing the parking
spaces. </font><font color="red" face="Times New Roman" size="3">2. Because of the volume
of bikes we expect to be in attendance around Parliament, the plan is for
riders to find somewhere safe to park in Hospital Road or elsewhere and
walk to the Rally with your helmet on.</font><font color="red" face="Times New Roman" size="3">3. At 10am there will
be a van located on Hospital Rd that will be distributing hand held placards
and other materials for the protest. This is a Black and Green Ford Transit
Van.</font><font color="red" face="Times New Roman" size="3">4. Mashalls will be positioned
around Parliament and surrounding streets guiding bike traffic, please
be respectful and listen to their directions.
Note: The Dykes on Bikes at this stage are being suggested as the marshalls.
We still need another 6 marshalls.</font><font color="red" face="Times New Roman" size="3">5. All members walking
to the rally are asked to wear their helmets as a distinguishing feature
and insignia of being a motorcyclist and particuipant in the protest. </font><font color="red" face="Times New Roman" size="3">6. The official protest
is allocated to run between 12pm - 1pm.
Note: As per any motorcycle event, please ensure you have a FULL tank
of petrol... do not run out of petrol.
Note: If you cannot attend in the morning, please arrive outside Parliament
House by 11:50am and join the rally at Parliament House.</font><font color="red" face="Times New Roman" size="3">7. THERE WILL BE A STRONG
POLICE AND MEDIA PRESENCE! Idiotic behaviour will not be tolerated under
ANY circumstances. Anyone committing an offence should expect no leniency
from the police and no support from the MCC of NSW.</font><font color="red" face="Times New Roman" size="3">8. If approached by the
media and asked why you are protesting you are to direct ALL questions
to Rob Colligan of the MCC of NSW who will be on the staging area with
the microphone. This will avoid people making silly comments which will
be used as stock footage and harm the goal of the rally.
Note: if you MUST make a comment, it must relate to the CTP issue.
WE ARE PROTESTING ABOUT CTP AND NOTHING ELSE.</font><font color="red" face="Times New Roman" size="3">9. In order to cover costs
imposed by Sydney City Council, The Police and The Royal Botanical Gardens
Trust, a hat will be passed around asking for at least a gold coin donation.
Note: Please remember the MCC gets no official funding from the Government
and all costs are being worn from their own (under funded) treasury.</font><font color="red" face="Times New Roman" size="3">10. If the number of bikes
is as large as we hope, do your best to find legal parking.
Note: Any footpath parking may attract a fine of around $90, so park
at your own risk and may attract undue Police attention.</font><font color="red" face="Times New Roman" size="3">11. All groups riding
to Parliament are responsible for their own actions and will receive no
support in antisocial behaviour from the MCC in any way, shape or form.
Use your head, don’t do anything stupid!</font><font color="red" face="Times New Roman" size="3">12. This, we hope, will
<font color="red" face="Times New Roman" size="3">You know the time, you
be one of the largest motorcycle rallies in NSW history. Let’s make it
count and not further negative stereotypes that have lead to our being
discriminated against in the first place.</font>
know the place, you know the reason. We NEED you there and anyone else
you can bring. Lets make this THE Protest that tells the Government enough
is enough.
Hope to see you there!
Kindest Wishes, Stay and Ride Safe.
From the Riders Against Bureaucracy Team</font>Posted 1 year ago # -
11 days and counting...
personally [and this is my own opinion for the benefit of our eavesdropping men in grey]
i will campaign and support anyone who :
instigates rider and drivers ed in schools as part of the cirriculum
encourages powerd two wheelers as a viable alternative to cars in our cities
promotes and encourages any sporting activity involving motorcycles [we re still trying to get stunting officially recognised]
uses fines revenue to actually improve our road safety through education and better road systems
and finally..
recognises bikes as more than recreational transport
i will be excerising my legal and moral right to attend the rally on the 31st of august and i will in a peaceful and law abiding manner confront the powers that be with my /our concerns
Posted 1 year ago # -
psycho biker
offlineMemberdone and dusted, I wonder if GovCo will listen or just ignore us as usual?
Just like beating a dead horse
Posted 1 year ago # -
psycho biker
offlineMember
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/31/2998825.htm?section=justin
Kenneally looking at;
Rec Rego
Single Seat Rego
Independent Actuary to review CTP
MCCofNSW to get a seat on the Motor Accident Board
Possible funding for a full time staffer, office and Researcher.............Numbers; 800 bikes 2000 protesters
Raptor pulled up the aptch riders when they left.
HP pulled over some Bikeme guys for running an amber light.
The coppers blocked off a lane each way on Macquarie St.
Posted 1 year ago # -
streetfighter67
offlineMemberHey guys,
I think it stinks & don't agree with it either, but where are you getting your prices from? I just registered a 750 & the ctp cost me $380-ish from NRMA!
I am 43, & live in what they class as "Country", though. I think it pays to shop around, as some of my quotes were well over $500...Posted 1 year ago #
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